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How a ransomware negotiator ended up arrested at his own conference

Oct 14, 2026 · 52m

Summary

Graham Cluley and Paul Ducklin discuss the arrest of ransomware negotiator Edward Dubrovsky, who was charged with conspiracy to extort money in connection with the Shiny Hunters cybercrime gang. They explore the murky, unregulated nature of the ransomware negotiation industry and the risks of criminals playing both sides. The episode also covers a breach of the ASOS app, where attackers sent extortion messages to customers, prompting criticism of the company’s dismissive response to data privacy violations. Finally, the hosts share their picks of the week, including a Minecraft city built b…

Topics discussed

Intro banter: unfashionable trousers and social embarrassment Sponsors and episode preview Teaser: Seven degrees of separation from ransomware Origin: Endpoint AI Observability sponsor segment The seven degrees of separation to a ransomware negotiator Arrest of Ed Dubrovsky and the Shiny Hunters gang The wild west of ransomware negotiation FBI takedowns and the Shiny Hunters investigation The evolution of cybercrime: from viruses to affiliates Vanta: Trust management platform sponsor segment ASOS breach: The scenario and the data involved The extortion message sent to all customers Case study: A customer who requested data deletion Critique of ASOS's casual breach response Hack the Box: Testing AI agents in security teams Pick of the Week: Mike Tomlin's Minecraft mansion Pick of the Week: Bypassing Google AI overviews Nostalgia: The Konami Code and retro boss screens Outro, social media links, and supporter roll call Final sponsor: Cyber insurance advertisement
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