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Fabulous, Beautiful Debt

Sep 26, 2026 · 59m

Summary

Robin Wigglesworth joins Slate Money to discuss his new book, *A Fabulous Debt*, which explores the 1,000-year history of bonds and their role in building modern financial systems. The hosts examine why bond markets are currently volatile, analyzing factors like inflation, the Federal Reserve's credibility, and the shift toward hedge funds as major Treasury holders. They debate whether rising yields signal economic strength or systemic risk, noting that bonds serve as both assets and liabilities. The conversation also touches on the concept of debt jubilees and the complex relationship betw…

Topics discussed

Introduction and host introductions Guest intro and book overview History of bonds and the 'fabulous debt' concept Bond markets and government accountability Debt as an asset and market depth Sovereign debt and emerging market pride Badly structured bonds and fraud examples War bonds and financing large projects Historical bond bubbles and the Poy scheme Current bond market stress and default risks Bond yields, duration, and inflation Fed policy and long-term interest rates Treasury sell-offs and private sector competition Inflation-protected securities and energy shocks Shift in Treasury buyers to hedge funds Hedge fund arbitrage and market brittleness Debt-to-GDP rules and MMT monetization Debt jubilees and historical debt forgiveness Financial system fragility and 0 Hedge Pandemic interventions and QE history Numbers round: 5.033% bond yield Numbers round: Iced coffee at interviews Numbers round: Elizabeth Holmes and movies Numbers round: 7% mortgage rates Closing remarks and sign-off
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