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Vaccinated or not, we’re on the brink of a measles epidemic

Sep 23, 2026 · 14m

Summary

Host Regina Barber discusses the resurgent measles outbreak in the U.S. with immunologist Michael Mina, who explains how the virus causes "immune amnesia" by erasing up to 70% of protective immune memory. The episode clarifies the distinction between measles-caused and associated deaths, addressing recent controversies over an infant's death in Pennsylvania. Mina also debunks misinformation about cures and warns that the U.S. may lose its elimination status, emphasizing the urgent need to rebuild public trust in vaccines to prevent a full-scale epidemic.

Topics discussed

Sponsor and the schoolyard measles rhyme Measles elimination history and current US outbreaks Political conflict over measles-associated deaths Introduction of Dr. Michael Mina and virus impact Explaining immune amnesia and the measles paradox Historical impact of measles on childhood mortality Defining measles-associated vs. caused deaths Debunking RFK Jr's claims on measles cures Vaccine efficacy and at-risk populations How isolated outbreaks merge into epidemics Rebuilding public trust in vaccination Closing remarks and credits Sponsor: Henry Ford Health and NASA ultrasound
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