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The psychology behind why you dread small talk

Apr 17, 2026 · 9m

Summary

Hosts Regina Barber, Emily Kwong, and guest Elsa Chang explore three scientific topics. They discuss a study showing that seemingly boring small talk is often more enjoyable than expected. Next, they examine research suggesting lobsters feel pain, noting that painkillers reduce their defensive reactions. Finally, they cover new geological evidence linking ancient lakes to the formation of the Grand Canyon.

Topics discussed

Intro: Hosts introduce the science roundup topics Sponsors: Edward Jones and BetterHelp ads Small talk: Why boring topics are often enjoyable Lobsters: Do they feel pain and react to painkillers? Grand Canyon: Ancient lakes helped carve the canyon Outro: Credits and sponsor messages
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