Why you can't stop scrolling: the science of 'dark flow'
Jun 1, 2026 · 12m
Summary
Host Emily Kwong and guest Mikeleene Ducleff explore how tech companies mimic gambling industry tactics to create addictive apps. They detail four design features—solitude, bottomlessness, speed, and algorithmic teasing—that induce a harmful "dark flow" state. The episode contrasts this with positive flow states and offers practical tips, like removing phones from living spaces, to help users regain control over their screen time.
Topics discussed
Intro: Screen time addiction and the 'super glue' of apps
Sponsors: NetSuite and Edward Jones
Origins: How casinos created addictive digital slot machines
The 'Machine Zone': A trance-like state of gambling
Ingredient 1: Solitude removes social cues to stop
Ingredient 2: Bottomlessness and endless content
Ingredient 3: Speed and infinite scroll
Ingredient 4: Algorithms that tease rather than satisfy
Dark Flow vs. Good Flow: Why scrolling feels bad
Solutions: Tips to break the screen time habit
Outro: Credits and NPR support appeal
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