Hosts Nate and Gina welcome Elsa Chang to discuss a mysterious "black hole star" detected by the James Webb Telescope, which may explain supermassive black hole origins. They also explore new research suggesting leisure-time exercise, unlike physical labor, better lowers dementia risk due to stress and socioeconomic factors. Finally, the episode covers long-clawed shrews that shrink their organs and bones to survive winter, a phenomenon with potential biomedical applications.