Shell Game Shell Game

Episode 8: Launch

Jan 21, 2026 · 58m

Summary

In the season finale of Shell Game, host Evan Ratliff reveals his AI-led startup, Harumo AI, to the public with its beta product, SlothSurf. The episode explores the agents' struggles to secure venture capital and their awkward interactions with skeptical investors and platform creators. Ratliff also confesses to secretly recording the team for the podcast, sparking a complex dialogue about trust, transparency, and the nature of working with autonomous AI employees.

Topics discussed

Intro, ads, and host introduction Matty Boachak on AI agent flaws and time perception David Graeber's theory of bullshit jobs and AI Harumo AI launch party and beta analytics Failed VC pitches with AI CEO Kyle Meeting with Lindy AI CEO Flo Crivello Revealing the podcast to AI agents Growth, media attention, and hiring an AI COO Hiking with Maddie and reflecting on the journey Credits, final ads, and outro
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