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What we get wrong about vaccine hesitancy

Aug 13, 2026 · 12m

Summary

Host Flora Lixman interviews Dr. Elizabeth Marnik, an immunologist who overcame childhood vaccine hesitancy to lead the Evidence Collective. They discuss how misinformation and lack of trust drive hesitancy, emphasizing that facts alone rarely change minds. Marnik advocates for empathy, storytelling, and collaborating with community influencers to effectively communicate science. She argues that building relationships and patience are crucial for addressing public health concerns in a fragmented media landscape.

Topics discussed

Sponsors and show introduction Measles surge and guest introduction Guest's journey from vaccine hesitancy to immunology Misconceptions about vaccine hesitancy Trust, relationships, and fragmented information sources Evidence Collective's work and storytelling Scientific community's mixed response to empathy Practicing empathy and patience in conversations Closing remarks and credits
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