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The decades-long movement to kill FEMA

May 2, 2026 · 12m

Summary

Flora Lichtman speaks with Micah Loewinger about the Trump administration’s efforts to dismantle FEMA and the agency’s history of conspiracy theories. Loewinger explains how Cold War-era civil defense plans fueled false claims of secret detention camps, which persist in right-wing extremism. The discussion covers recent bureaucratic sabotage, the political exploitation of disasters, and the potential nomination of Cameron Hamilton to lead the weakened agency.

Topics discussed

Sponsors: MathWorks, Poster House, and Con Edison Introduction: Trump's criticism of FEMA and recent rehiring Kristi Noem's cost-cutting measures and leadership issues Historical distrust and conspiracy theories surrounding FEMA FEMA's origins: Civil defense and natural disaster response Cold War bunkers, Project 908, and martial law plans The 'FEMA Camps' conspiracy theory and militia groups Extremism, natural disasters, and political exploitation Cameron Hamilton's nomination and the future of FEMA Outro: American Emergency series and listener line
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