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Ayana Elizabeth Johnson on making climate action cool

Oct 19, 2026 · 12m

Summary

In this Science Friday episode, host Flora Lichtman interviews climate advocate and marine biologist Dr. Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson about her latest book, *What If We Get It Right?* Johnson discusses the state of the climate movement, emphasizing that while she is not an optimist, she remains tenacious in pursuing solutions. The conversation covers her transition from federal science to public advocacy, the importance of making climate action fun and culturally relevant, and the need to engage voters despite political headwinds.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest background Optimism vs. tenacity in climate action Transition from scientist to public figure The pivotal year of 2020 Responsibility, legacy, and avoiding fame Political engagement and voting for climate Making climate solutions fun and delightful Integrating climate into culture and media Closing remarks and credits
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