Authors in August: Thi Nguyen’s “The Score”
Aug 5, 2026 · 1h 1m
Summary
Philosopher C.T. Nguyen joins host David Gardner to discuss his new book, *The Score, exploring how metrics and rankings reshape human values. They examine the paradox of scoring systems, contrasting the voluntary, playful nature of games with the rigid, large-scale enforcement of institutional metrics. Nguyen argues that while metrics enable coordination at scale, they often strip away nuance and force individuals to outsource their personal values to simplified, measurable criteria. The conversation highlights how this shift from rich, contextual judgment to mechanical rules can distort g…
Topics discussed
Introduction: Host background and guest introduction
Guest bio and the concept of value capture
Games as art vs. the gamification of education
The conflict between personal values and institutional metrics
How metrics reshape institutions: Law school rankings
Outsourcing values and the loss of deep deliberation
The seductive power of clear scoring systems
Principles vs. mechanical rules: The recipe analogy
The trade-off between accessibility and nuance in data
What gets lost when we prioritize easy-to-count metrics
Sponsor break: AquaTrue water purifier
Hermeneutical injustice and defining what is good
Book summary: The Score by C.T. Nguyen
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