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Brian Lehrer and Malcolm Gladwell Talk Policing and Guns

Oct 2, 2026 · 34m

Summary

Malcolm Gladwell discusses his new book, *The American Way of Killing*, arguing that the U.S. gun violence crisis is a manufactured epidemic rooted in historical dishonesty and systemic underfunding. He contends that American cities are significantly under-policed compared to European counterparts, which leads to more aggressive policing and community mistrust. Gladwell distinguishes between instrumental and expressive violence, emphasizing that most homicides are impulsive acts requiring emotional intervention programs rather than just stricter gun laws. He highlights Baltimore’s recent su…

Topics discussed

Sponsorships and show introduction Malcolm Gladwell introduces his new book and upcoming episodes Brian Lehrer introduces the interview and book themes Why the gun violence epidemic is considered an invention The dishonesty of the current gun violence conversation Comparing police staffing in the US and Europe Debunking the 'defund the police' argument with data Sponsor breaks for ChatGPT and book promotion Rebuilding trust: The need for more, not fewer, police The historical roots of the Second Amendment in slavery The myth of the Wild West and historical gun control How politics and ideology distorted the gun debate Critique of the Democratic focus on gun control Sponsor breaks and book promotion Listener call on police philosophy and community trust Defining instrumental vs. expressive violence Success stories in Baltimore and NYC intervention programs Listener call on police escalation and closing remarks Credits and final book promotion
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