Brian Lehrer and Malcolm Gladwell Talk Policing and Guns
Oct 2, 2026 · 34m
Summary
Malcolm Gladwell discusses his new book, *The American Way of Killing*, arguing that the U.S. gun violence crisis is a manufactured epidemic rooted in historical dishonesty and systemic underfunding. He contends that American cities are significantly under-policed compared to European counterparts, which leads to more aggressive policing and community mistrust. Gladwell distinguishes between instrumental and expressive violence, emphasizing that most homicides are impulsive acts requiring emotional intervention programs rather than just stricter gun laws. He highlights Baltimore’s recent su…
Topics discussed
Sponsorships and show introduction
Malcolm Gladwell introduces his new book and upcoming episodes
Brian Lehrer introduces the interview and book themes
Why the gun violence epidemic is considered an invention
The dishonesty of the current gun violence conversation
Comparing police staffing in the US and Europe
Debunking the 'defund the police' argument with data
Sponsor breaks for ChatGPT and book promotion
Rebuilding trust: The need for more, not fewer, police
The historical roots of the Second Amendment in slavery
The myth of the Wild West and historical gun control
How politics and ideology distorted the gun debate
Critique of the Democratic focus on gun control
Sponsor breaks and book promotion
Listener call on police philosophy and community trust
Defining instrumental vs. expressive violence
Success stories in Baltimore and NYC intervention programs
Listener call on police escalation and closing remarks
Credits and final book promotion
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