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A Tragedy in Texas | The Mistakes Series

Apr 23, 2026

Summary

Malcolm Gladwell interviews former Air Force leaders Heather Wilson and Dave Goldfein about their response to the 2017 Sutherland Springs shooting. They discuss how they immediately took ownership of the Air Force’s failure to report the shooter’s violent conviction to the FBI. The episode highlights their decision to prioritize transparency and servant leadership, including Goldfein’s attendance at the victims' funerals, to rebuild trust and fix systemic issues.

Topics discussed

Sponsor ads for PayPal, UnitedHealthcare, and Shell Intro: Gladwell introduces General Goldfein and Dr. Wilson Guests' shared history at the Air Force Academy The Sutherland Springs shooting and the Air Force's failure Systemic failures in reporting violent offenses to the FBI Ad break for Prime Video's Ride or Die Taking ownership: The decision to be transparent immediately The press conference and accepting institutional responsibility Ad break for Prime Video's Ride or Die General Goldfein attends the funeral in Sutherland Springs Community reaction and the importance of showing up Lessons on servant leadership and handling failure Outro, book recommendation, and final sponsor ads
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