A Tragedy in Texas | The Mistakes Series
Apr 23, 2026
Summary
Malcolm Gladwell interviews former Air Force leaders Heather Wilson and Dave Goldfein about their response to the 2017 Sutherland Springs shooting. They discuss how they immediately took ownership of the Air Force’s failure to report the shooter’s violent conviction to the FBI. The episode highlights their decision to prioritize transparency and servant leadership, including Goldfein’s attendance at the victims' funerals, to rebuild trust and fix systemic issues.
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Intro: Gladwell introduces General Goldfein and Dr. Wilson
Guests' shared history at the Air Force Academy
The Sutherland Springs shooting and the Air Force's failure
Systemic failures in reporting violent offenses to the FBI
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Taking ownership: The decision to be transparent immediately
The press conference and accepting institutional responsibility
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General Goldfein attends the funeral in Sutherland Springs
Community reaction and the importance of showing up
Lessons on servant leadership and handling failure
Outro, book recommendation, and final sponsor ads
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