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EP525: PMPM vs FFS—The Perverse Incentives Plan Sponsors Sometimes Miss, With Cristin Dickerson, MD

Aug 19, 2026 · 16m

Summary

Host and Dr. Kristen Dickerson analyze perverse incentives in PMPM versus fee-for-service payment models. They argue that FFS can be viable for defined care pods if vendors lack referral power and provide transparent data. The discussion highlights how ethical alignment and auditability mitigate FFS volume risks better than capitated models.

Topics discussed

Intro: PMPM vs FFS and perverse incentives Supply chain analogy and procurement strategies Flavors of fee-for-service and price transparency Risk allocation in PMPM vs FFS models Mitigating volume incentives in radiology Enlightened leadership and ethical alignment Contract flexibility and termination rights Data analytics and clinical expertise Outro: Newsletter, social media, and donations
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