Chobani & Patagonia CEOs break down where values meet profit
Sep 25, 2026 · 27m
Summary
This episode features Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert and Chobani CEO Hamdi Ulukaya in conversation with New York Times reporter David Gelles, discussing the intersection of values and commerce. They share personal stories of navigating political polarization, from Patagonia’s environmental activism to Chobani’s refugee hiring initiatives and partnerships with the White House. The leaders explain how their independent ownership structures allow them to prioritize community and environmental impact over rapid growth. Both emphasize that staying true to core values, even in the face of backlash, c…
Topics discussed
Masters of Scale Summit promotion and episode intro
Host introduction and sponsor reads
Introduction of Patagonia and Chobani CEOs
Hamdi Ulukaya on values, politics, and common ground
Ryan Gellert on Patagonia's political activism
Navigating partnerships and timeless truths
Sponsor breaks and segment transition
Ryan Gellert on restrained growth and impact
Hamdi Ulukaya on high growth and quality control
Ownership structures and giving away Patagonia
Hamdi Ulukaya's personal story and resilience
Ryan Gellert on democracy and hope for the future
Closing remarks and summit recap
Sponsor reads and show credits
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