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Chobani & Patagonia CEOs break down where values meet profit

Sep 25, 2026 · 27m

Summary

This episode features Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert and Chobani CEO Hamdi Ulukaya in conversation with New York Times reporter David Gelles, discussing the intersection of values and commerce. They share personal stories of navigating political polarization, from Patagonia’s environmental activism to Chobani’s refugee hiring initiatives and partnerships with the White House. The leaders explain how their independent ownership structures allow them to prioritize community and environmental impact over rapid growth. Both emphasize that staying true to core values, even in the face of backlash, c…

Topics discussed

Masters of Scale Summit promotion and episode intro Host introduction and sponsor reads Introduction of Patagonia and Chobani CEOs Hamdi Ulukaya on values, politics, and common ground Ryan Gellert on Patagonia's political activism Navigating partnerships and timeless truths Sponsor breaks and segment transition Ryan Gellert on restrained growth and impact Hamdi Ulukaya on high growth and quality control Ownership structures and giving away Patagonia Hamdi Ulukaya's personal story and resilience Ryan Gellert on democracy and hope for the future Closing remarks and summit recap Sponsor reads and show credits
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