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Former Pastor Ryan Burge on What Church Can Do for Democracy

Aug 13, 2026 · 50m

Summary

Political scientist Ryan Burge discusses his book *The Vanishing Church*, arguing that American religion has undergone a massive sorting process driven by political polarization. He explains how moderate mainline congregations, once vital hubs for civic connection and compromise, are disappearing as churches become ideologically homogenous. Burge contends that this loss of the religious middle harms democracy by eliminating spaces where citizens with differing views could interact, ultimately exacerbating societal division and gridlock.

Topics discussed

Intro: Pastor's crisis and the origin of The Vanishing Church Why people stop going to church: It's not that deep, bro The extinction of moderate mainline Protestant churches Political polarization and the loss of mixed congregations Church as a 'third space' for civic and social mixing Implications for democracy and global stability Literalism, doubt, and the slippery slope of faith Nuanced views on abortion vs. polarized rhetoric Mormonism: Pluralism and humility in a minoritized faith The Great Reversal and socioeconomic homogeneity in churches Social media amplifies extremes and warps public perception The danger of doubtless faith and the future of religion Personal practice: Finding community and serving locally
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