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Why Racial Inequality Costs Everyone (with Heather McGhee)

Jun 10, 2026 · 50m

Summary

Kim Scott interviews Heather McGee, author of *The Sum of Us*, about how racism undermines economic prosperity for all Americans. They discuss historical examples like Bacon’s Rebellion and modern issues in education, healthcare, and housing to illustrate how racial division serves elite interests. McGee emphasizes the need for cross-racial solidarity and collective action to rebuild public goods and achieve shared economic security.

Topics discussed

Sponsor message and podcast introduction Introduction of Heather McGhee and her book Bacon's Rebellion and the origins of racial division The metaphor of draining the public swimming pool The power of narrative and zero-sum thinking Racism's impact on education and student debt Healthcare inequality and the Medicaid expansion debate Predatory lending and the 2008 financial crisis Union busting and the Fight for $15 movement Environmental racism and cross-racial solidarity in Memphis
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