The Countess at Nuremberg
Sep 21, 2026 · 32m
Summary
In this episode, hosts Robert Hardman and Professor Kate Williams discuss the 80th anniversary of the Nuremberg trials with guest author Natalie Livingstone. They explore the overlooked roles of women, including lawyer Harriet Zetterberg, Countess Ingeborg Kallnocki, and resistance fighter Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier, who were pivotal to the proceedings. The conversation highlights how these women were historically marginalized despite their critical contributions to establishing international law and documenting the Holocaust.
Topics discussed
Intro and ZEN Nicotine Pouches Ad
Welcome and Guest Introduction
The 80th Anniversary and the Missing Women
Harriet Zetterberg: The Footnote Prosecutor
Countess Kallnocki: Background and Royal Ties
Fleeing the Nazis and the Witness House Offer
Hosting Nazi High Command at the Witness House
Concentration Camp Survivors and the Dinner Scene
Kallnocki's Post-War Life and Identity Crisis
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Marie-Claude Vaillant-Couturier's Testimony
Cross-Examination and the Story of Annette
Legacy, Personal Connection, and Book Recommendations
Sign-off
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