Mark Harmon & Leon Carroll, Jr., "Ghosts of Sicily"
Aug 3, 2026 ยท 59m
Topics discussed
Introduction and sponsorships
Overview of 'Ghosts of Sicily' and the Mafia's role
Origins of the story and NCIS/ONI background
Leon Carroll's career as an agent and TV consultant
Evolution of NCIS accuracy and the book collaboration
Mark Harmon's perspective on research and authenticity
The 1942 fishing industry and recruitment of Joe Lanza
Sponsor break and confirmation of the true story
Lucky Luciano's involvement and the trade-off
Brooklyn Navy Yard incident and merchant fleet losses
Impact of the TV show on NCIS recruitment and reputation
Behind-the-scenes anecdotes and technical accuracy challenges
Leon Carroll's cameo and filming mishaps
Sponsor break
Reflections on revealing classified history and records
Leon Carroll's advice to actors and the goatee incident
The Hurlbut Report and political fallout
Visiting Sicily and final thoughts
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