AI Insiders Keep Saying We’re In Danger — Where’s The Evidence?
Sep 16, 2026 · 38m
Summary
Host Ed Elson discusses the AI safety debate with Ed Zittrain, who argues that researcher resignations are a media-driven "grift" lacking concrete evidence or accountability. The episode also features economist Mark Zandy, who explains how the 10-year Treasury yield breached 5% due to war-driven inflation and fiscal deficits, making a Fed rate hike likely despite economic softness. Finally, Elson highlights the record unaffordability of the U.S. housing market, driven by soaring prices and mortgage rates exceeding 7%.
Topics discussed
Sponsor: VCX public ticker for private tech
Promo: Ina Garten's Happy Hour podcast
Market update: Fed decision, oil, and Bitcoin
AI safety: Tugtai's move and industry coalition
Debate: Jacob Coxon's viral AI doom tweet
Analysis: Incentives behind AI safety narratives
Critique: Media coverage and lack of accountability
Discussion: Hugging Face incident and regulatory gaps
Regulation: Comparing AI to consumer product laws
Anthropic IPO: Financials and S-1 expectations
Sponsors: Hims weight loss and Blinds.com
Promo: General Z fact vs fiction podcast
Economy: Oil prices, inflation, and Treasury yields
Fed policy: Rate hike expectations and economic data
Monetary policy limits: War, tariffs, and supply shocks
Fed independence: Kevin Warsh and political pressure
Housing market: Affordability and rising mortgage rates
Outro and production credits
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