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MS NOW Boss Rebecca Kutler On Taking Trump Live, Hasan Piker, and More

Sep 23, 2026 · 34m

Summary

Rebecca, MS Now’s executive, discusses the network’s launch of a direct-to-consumer membership program designed to engage younger audiences and diversify revenue beyond declining linear cable. She highlights MS Now’s digital strength on YouTube and TikTok, its strategy for hiring top talent, and its approach to covering controversial political events. The conversation also touches on the benefits of spinning out from NBCUniversal, allowing for greater autonomy and a focus on pro-democracy journalism while maintaining a broad, engaged viewer base.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Nespresso Virtual Up Coffee Machine State of linear TV: Audience decline vs. MS Now growth Digital dominance: YouTube, TikTok, and audio reach Launch of the MS Now direct-to-consumer membership Revenue strategy: Offsetting linear decline with D2C Defining success: Engagement metrics and investment pace Targeting 'future fans': Reaching younger, non-cable audiences Acquisitions and licensing: Strategy for new content Hiring journalists: The pitch for pro-democracy newsroom Newsroom gaps: Fact-checking and video reporting Events business: Live tours and community gatherings Covering Trump: Editorial decisions on primetime speeches Internal disagreement and host differentiation The evolution of chyrons and on-screen graphics Political identity: Pro-democracy vs. progressive labels Versant spin-off: Autonomy and investment runway Guest selection: Why Hassan Piker is not on MS Now Closing remarks
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