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How Sougwen Chung teaches robots to pause

Aug 5, 2026 · 56m

Summary

Artist Su Wen Cheng discusses her decade-long practice of "operational art," where she collaborates with robots and AI as co-creators using EEG data and robotic arms. She explores concepts like the ancient calligraphic "pause," poeticizing error, and the limits of human sensorium. Cheng argues for extended authorship and mutual adaptation, rejecting the view of AI as merely a tool in favor of a dynamic, embodied relationship with intelligent systems.

Topics discussed

Introduction: Brainwaves, Genomics, and Zhang Yao's Legacy Guest Background: Blending Art, Code, and Music Inspiration from AlphaGo and the Beauty of Non-Human Moves Robotic Collaboration and the Evolution of Drawing Ancestral Connection: Zhang Yao and Recursive Inheritance Human-Machine Feedback Loops and Agency EEG Art, Meditation, and Brainwave Thresholds Doug the Robot: Playfulness and Poeticizing Error Building from Scratch vs. Proprietary AI Tools Operational Art and Co-Regulation with Machines Expanding the Human Sensorium and Empathy Authorship, Agency, and the Nature of Collaboration Rapid Fire: Silk Proteins, Arrival, and Future Possibilities
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