How Many Divisions Has the Pope?
Summary
Hosts David Plotz and John Dickerson discuss the US blockade of Iran, Trump’s feud with Pope Leo, and the costs of the conflict. Emily Bazelon details her reporting on the Trump administration’s aggressive DHS immigration enforcement under Stephen Miller. Finally, Anne Applebaum analyzes the defeat of Viktor Orban in Hungary and the challenges of dismantling his authoritarian systems.
Topics discussed
Intro: Ben's book on Benjamin Harrison and cocktail chatter
Iran blockade, war costs, and economic impacts
Pope vs. Trump: Theology, just war, and blasphemy
Ground News ad and mental health discussion
DHS under Trump: Immigration enforcement and Stephen Miller
Viktor Orban's defeat in Hungary and lessons for democracy
Dolly Parton's approval ratings and book recommendations
Empire of the Summer Moon and Voyager probe update
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