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Gabfest Reads | The Presidency as Pure Pleasure

Jul 18, 2026 · 49m

Summary

Slate’s John Dickerson interviews Maggie Haberman and Jonathan Swan about their book, *Regime Change*, which details Donald Trump’s second-term decision-making. They describe a chaotic administration where Trump bypasses traditional interagency processes, relying on gut instinct, recency bias, and a small inner circle. The discussion covers the resulting confusion in foreign policy, such as the Iran war, and Trump’s enjoyment of power, wealth, and flattery.

Topics discussed

Introduction to GabFest Reads and the book Regime Change Trump's decision-making style: Gut instinct over process Comparison with Bush: Lack of interagency process and NSC Information flow: TV, Fox News, and the 'human printer' Gatekeepers: Susie Wiles, Natalie Harp, and Marco Rubio Recency bias and the influence of Netanyahu and Vance Confusion in Iran negotiations and Witkoff's role The echo chamber and feedback loops in the White House Does Trump enjoy the presidency? Power and attention The role of money: Wealth as scorekeeping and dominance Lying as a dominance display and psychological control Monetizing the presidency: Foreign deals and library donations The Epstein files: PR crisis management and victim concerns DOJ actions driven by Trump's frustration with slow pace Trump's health, age, and cognitive sharpness Conclusion and credits for GabFest Reads
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