[BONUS EPISODE] What the Heck is Going On In the Bond Market? | Diving In
Aug 19, 2026 · 18m
Summary
Justin Wolfers and Ben Meisels analyze the surge in US bond yields, attributing it to massive government deficits and AI-driven borrowing. They discuss Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s new program to buy and sell long-term bonds, debating whether it merely fixes market liquidity or artificially suppresses rates. The episode highlights how rising interest rates impact mortgage costs and consumer affordability, while questioning the administration’s unconventional financial interventions.
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Intro: Bond market volatility and Scott Bessent's intervention
Rising yields, mortgage rates, and the interview setup
Why the bond market matters and why rates are rising
Record budget deficits and impact on consumer affordability
Economics 101: How bonds, the Treasury, and the Fed work
Fed Chair Walsh vs. Treasury Secretary Bessent's new program
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Analysis: Short-term fixes vs. long-term debt problems
The 'Plumbing' explanation: Market liquidity and technical issues
Political signaling: Is the Treasury fighting the market?
Conclusion: Uncertainty, deficits, and the 'leaking ship' metaphor
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