The Hidden Link Between Government Debt and Everyday Credit | Off the Clock
Sep 12, 2026 · 50m
Summary
Stacy Bennick Smith and Justin Wolfers analyze the August inflation report, noting that while core inflation is near target, energy costs remain high and the Fed is likely to raise rates. They explain the bond market using a "jargon jar" challenge, clarifying how massive US government deficits and AI corporate borrowing are driving up interest rates. The episode also covers Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s controversial intervention in the bond market and the potential economic consequences of rising debt.
Topics discussed
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Introduction and guest welcome
Bond market banter and date night
Inflation report overview and dad jokes
Is 3.4% inflation dramatic? Cost of living
Core inflation, deflation risks, and Fed targets
PCE deflator and wage growth concerns
Fed rate hike odds and Kevin Warsh's silence
Gas price bet and gloating
Trump tariffs threat and Fed independence
Markets focus on bond market over stocks
Inflation game: Top price jumps and drops
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Bond market importance and Jargon Jar challenge
Explaining bonds and yields without jargon
AI companies and corporate bond issuance
US debt levels and future borrowing concerns
Why high debt raises interest rates
Inflating away debt and Argentina example
Impact of rising rates on mortgages and loans
Treasury liquidity and Scott Bessent's bond strategy
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Lettuce prices and $40T debt visualization
Closing remarks and call to subscribe
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