Wanna slow down AI? These biologists can help.
Oct 14, 2026 · 29m
Summary
Planet Money explores the AI industry's collective action problem by drawing parallels to the 1975 Asilomar Conference, where scientists paused recombinant DNA research to establish safety guardrails. The episode recounts how a whistleblower's concerns led to a temporary moratorium and a pivotal summit that balanced scientific freedom with public safety. Featuring interviews with key figures like Janet Mertz and Bob Pollack, the hosts analyze how self-regulation and legal liability helped resolve the crisis. They offer lessons for AI leaders, emphasizing the need for limited scope, enforced…
Topics discussed
Sponsor: Apollo Capital
The AI collective action problem
Introduction: Lessons from biology
Sponsor: Ameriprise Financial
The dilemma of slowing down tech
Meet Janet Mertz and the 70s bio revolution
Recombinant DNA: Promise and peril
Bob Pollock's warning and the call to Paul Berg
The experiment halted and the Nobel dream
Accelerating risks and the collective action trap
The 1974 moratorium on research
Michael Rogers and the Asilomar Conference
Inside the Asilomar debate: Two camps
The conference as a super-spreader event
Alex Capron's speech on liability and law
Drafting the final guardrails
Sponsors: Ameriprise and BetterHelp
AI vs. DNA: Key differences in the race
James Watson's opposition to regulation
The vote and the role of NIH enforcement
Lessons for AI: Scope, secrecy, and liability
Janet Mertz reflects on the personal cost
Outro, event promo, and sponsors
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