Planet Money Planet Money

Wanna slow down AI? These biologists can help.

Oct 14, 2026 · 29m

Summary

Planet Money explores the AI industry's collective action problem by drawing parallels to the 1975 Asilomar Conference, where scientists paused recombinant DNA research to establish safety guardrails. The episode recounts how a whistleblower's concerns led to a temporary moratorium and a pivotal summit that balanced scientific freedom with public safety. Featuring interviews with key figures like Janet Mertz and Bob Pollack, the hosts analyze how self-regulation and legal liability helped resolve the crisis. They offer lessons for AI leaders, emphasizing the need for limited scope, enforced…

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Apollo Capital The AI collective action problem Introduction: Lessons from biology Sponsor: Ameriprise Financial The dilemma of slowing down tech Meet Janet Mertz and the 70s bio revolution Recombinant DNA: Promise and peril Bob Pollock's warning and the call to Paul Berg The experiment halted and the Nobel dream Accelerating risks and the collective action trap The 1974 moratorium on research Michael Rogers and the Asilomar Conference Inside the Asilomar debate: Two camps The conference as a super-spreader event Alex Capron's speech on liability and law Drafting the final guardrails Sponsors: Ameriprise and BetterHelp AI vs. DNA: Key differences in the race James Watson's opposition to regulation The vote and the role of NIH enforcement Lessons for AI: Scope, secrecy, and liability Janet Mertz reflects on the personal cost Outro, event promo, and sponsors
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