Why Experts Keep Getting the Economy So Wrong
Sep 15, 2026 · 58m
Summary
Derek Thompson and economist Jason Furman explore why economic experts consistently overpredict recessions despite the US economy’s surprising resilience. They analyze failed doomsday forecasts regarding inflation, tariffs, and the Iran war, attributing the disconnect to a shift toward a diversified "100-legged stool" economy and improved monetary policy. The episode also critiques media sensationalism, arguing that commentators often confuse short-term negative events with long-term positive economic trends.
Topics discussed
Introduction: The history of failed recession predictions
Current economic resilience despite tariffs, AI, and war
The disconnect between media doom and stable GDP
Introduction of guest Jason Furman
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Distinguishing economic models from commentators
Defense of models against sensationalist media
Reviewing specific recession predictions: Inflation
Why 2022 interest rate recession fears were wrong
Analyzing why bipartisan recession calls failed
Economy becoming less sensitive to interest rates
Shift from manufacturing to services economy
Supply side factors in 2021-2022 inflation
Debating the ratio of demand vs supply inflation
Adjudicating supply and demand via GDP growth
The Great Moderation and economic stability
Factors contributing to current economic moderation
Detour: Defining the Great Moderation thesis
Prospects for a 'Great Moderation 2.0'
Improved credibility of central bank policy
Emerging markets weathering global shocks
The role of debt in economic safety
Summary: Better policy and economic diversity
Tariffs: Models were correct, media was not
Quantifying the actual impact of tariffs on growth
The cost of unnecessary policy errors
Self-fulfilling prophecies and political pressure
The risk of constant doom-mongering
Criticism of non-economist commentators
Injecting truth into economic discourse
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Iran War: Overstated economic impact
Fertilizer supply chains and crop yields
Quantifying small impacts vs. perceived catastrophe
Oil prices and the Strait of Hormuz closure
Historical context of oil price shocks
China's role in capping global commodity prices
Anticipating global policy adjustments
Understating economic flexibility and adjustment
Germany's response to Russian gas cuts
Technological developments reducing oil sensitivity
Consumer and labor market flexibility
Comparison to 19th-century monetary policy
Media criticism: Events vs. Trends
Economist's perspective on media incentives
The bias toward negative events in news
Balancing self-fulfilling prophecies and truth
Supply-side nature of long-term growth
Focusing on trends rather than events
Journalist's reflection on negative bias
The invisibility of the pandemic in macro data
The miracle of steady GDP per capita growth
AI as an event or a long-term trend
AI's impact on productivity and employment
Predicting future productivity growth rates
Social and political consequences of high growth
The trade-off of rapid technological change
Choosing a productivity growth rate
The reality of service-based labor markets
The gap between tech hype and economic reality
Conclusion: Appreciation and future outlook
Final thoughts on economic flexibility and adjustment
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