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Ina Garten’s Next Course? A Podcast | On With Kara Swisher

Sep 8, 2026 · 50m

Summary

Ina Garten discusses her new Vox Media podcast, *Happy Hour*, which shifts her focus from cooking to intimate, long-form conversations with guests like Sophia Coppola and Paul Carmichael. She explains her pivot from television to independent media as a way to foster deeper connections and embrace a more organic, less polished format. The episode also covers her philosophy on fun, the evolution of food media, and her approach to developing personal style and taste in an era of social media and AI.

Topics discussed

Sponsor reads and show introductions Cara Swisher introduces Ina Garten and her new podcast Ina discusses her new podcast format and favorite cocktails Why Ina chose long-form conversation over TV interviews The intimate, casual vibe of the new show and first guest The importance of fun in cooking, business, and life Balancing the fun and unfun parts of running a business Navigating political chaos and the need for kindness Comparing the emotional impact of podcasts vs. TV and books Infusing life with fun and the concept of 'mattering' Sponsor segments for Fashion Neurosis Ina's 20-year attention span and drive for reinvention The story of quitting her job and starting Barefoot Contessa Selling her company and the decision to pivot to podcasting Defining 'messiness' and the organic feel of the new show Chatting about her son's career as a chef Ina's original vision for her first cookbook and brand The gravity of fun and thoughts on mortality Sponsor segments for Vox Media podcasts Social media during the pandemic and the challenges of filming Ina's views on food influencers, tablescapes, and criticism Testing recipes and the importance of trusting sources Finding inspiration and the sensibility of specialty food stores Home cook credentials and the complexity of simple things Testing AI-generated recipes and developing personal style Updating old recipes and closing credits
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