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Interview: Professor Thomas Asbridge on the Black Death

Jul 15, 2026 · 40m

Summary

Host Patrick Wyman interviews historian Dr. Thomas Asperger about his book, *The Black Death: A Global History*. They discuss the pandemic’s spread via medieval trade networks and its varying impacts across Christian and Muslim societies. Asperger emphasizes recovering individual human experiences through personal accounts and wills, highlighting both the horror of mass death and the resilience of communities. The conversation also touches on the theological differences in plague responses and the enduring relevance of pandemics in human history.

Topics discussed

Intro and Progressive Insurance Ad Introduction to Dr. Thomas Asperger and his work Asperger's background in medieval history and Crusades The interconnected medieval world and plague spread How connectivity determined plague arrival and impact Motivation for writing a global history of the Black Death Focusing on human experience over statistics and DNA Resilience and the persistence of daily life during plague Universal emotions and trauma in medieval responses Variations in historical records and regional impacts Comparing Christian and Muslim theological responses Flight bans and higher mortality in Muslim cities Societal collapse vs. resilience and scapegoating Last wills as evidence of community and hope Lessons for modern pandemics and outro
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