Dave Smith hosts Jeremy Kaufman, chair of the Libertarian Party of New Hampshire and Free State Project champion, to discuss a controversial UK stabbing case and its implications for racial discourse. They debate the persistence of "wokeness," the cultural importance of Western fairness norms, and the challenges of enforcing laws in diverse societies. The conversation also covers differing views on Donald Trump’s political utility versus his foreign policy failures, and the strategic value of geographic concentration for libertarians.