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Should We Phase Out Social Security?

Oct 2, 2026 · 1h 6m

Summary

In this Open to Debate episode, economists Romina Baccia and Teresa Ghilarducci clash over whether to phase out Social Security. Baccia argues the system is an unsustainable, regressive wage-replacement program that should be replaced by a targeted anti-poverty floor, allowing workers to save independently. Ghilarducci counters that Social Security is a vital, popular family insurance program that prevents elderly poverty, noting that private retirement systems have failed to provide adequate security. The debate also explores incremental reforms, such as raising the earnings cap and adjust…

Topics discussed

Intro: The debate on phasing out Social Security Introduction of host John Donvan and guests Romina Baccia argues for phasing out Social Security Teresa Golanducci argues against phasing out Social Security Guest backgrounds and personal motivations Debate on the origin and nature of the program Discussion on insurance vs. welfare and international models Feasibility of individual savings and retirement accounts Sponsor break: American Nurses Association New York Mark's question: Incremental changes to the program Gopi Shah-Goda on outdated rules and spousal benefits Zach's question: Impact on marriage and fertility Nick's question: Economic growth and trade-offs Romina Baccia's closing statement Teresa Golanducci's closing statement Host wrap-up and acknowledgments Sponsor break: Monday.com
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