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Why This Crypto Billionaire Wants to Slow Down the AI Arms Race

Sep 7, 2026 · 52m

Summary

Kara Swisher interviews Ripple co-founder Chris Larson about the resurgence of San Francisco’s innovation scene and the critical need for clear cryptocurrency regulations, specifically the Digital Asset Market Clarity Act. The conversation also addresses the controversial surveillance network Larson funded to reduce crime, balancing public safety with civil liberties concerns. Additionally, they discuss the intense political battles over AI safety, Larson’s support for candidates advocating for guardrails, and his opposition to California’s proposed billionaire wealth tax.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest background San Francisco crime, surveillance, and public safety Silicon Valley culture and the AI boom Why talent stays in the Bay Area Crypto regulation and the Clarity Act Sponsor break: Odoo Controversy over police surveillance and drones Public backlash against AI and data centers Funding AI safety advocates and political races Tech leadership and social media accountability California's 5% billionaire tax proposal Sponsor break: Odoo Tax reform and government union influence Climate change policy and energy transition US-China competition in tech and EVs Political polarization and civic engagement Closing remarks and encouragement for entrepreneurs Credits and production team Sponsor break: Odoo
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