Inside the Fight Against Non-Consensual Deepfake Porn
Summary
Kara Swisher hosts attorney Kerry Goldberg, journalist Lori Siegel, and computer scientist V.S. Subrahmanian to discuss the proliferation of non-consensual AI deepfake pornography. They examine the psychological harm to victims, the role of platforms like X and Grok in facilitating abuse, and the legal battles surrounding product liability and Section 230. The episode also covers legislative efforts like the Take It Down Act and the technical challenges of detecting and preventing these digital assaults.
Topics discussed
Intro, content warnings, and guest introductions
The evolution and accessibility of deepfake technology
Investigation into Mr. Deepfakes and victim impact
Deepfakes in schools and the normalization of abuse
Legal battle: Ashley St. Clair vs. XAI and Grok
Ad breaks: Quince, Pebble, and Gusto
Tech infrastructure: Cloud services and APIs enabling deepfakes
The economics of the deepfake porn industry
Legal strategies: Section 230 and product liability
Ad breaks: Groons and America Actually promo
The Take It Down Act and regulatory effectiveness
Expert Q&A: Impact on teens and educational responses
Future outlook: Agentic AI and the fate of Mr. Deepfakes
Closing thoughts on accountability and cultural change
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