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Can Data Centers Be Done Right?

Aug 6, 2026 · 1h 11m

Summary

Kara Swisher hosts Erin Brockovich, Logan Mitchell, Elena Schlossberg, and Andy Schor to discuss the political and environmental backlash against hyperscale data centers. The panelists address issues like massive water consumption, grid instability, and lack of transparency in projects across Utah, Virginia, and Michigan. They argue that tech giants must pay for their infrastructure costs to drive innovation and ensure democratic accountability.

Topics discussed

Introduction: The data center boom and guest introductions Sponsor reads: Odoo and Mount Sinai Guests' origins and the shift in public perception The scale of modern hyperscale data centers Lack of transparency and community opposition Water usage: Closed-loop systems and chemical risks Power demands and natural gas infrastructure Sponsor reads: Grüns, NetSuite, and Rippling Grid strain, diesel generators, and tax incentives Transmission lines and methane leakage concerns Political backlash and bipartisan opposition Federal policy, AI economic zones, and nuclear power Conclusion: Building trust and responsible growth Outro and credits
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