An outsider Democrat taking on both parties in Iowa
Aug 26, 2026 · 34m
Summary
Jonathan Martin interviews Iowa State Auditor Rob Sand at the Iowa State Fair, where Sand campaigns for governor while eating pork tenderloins. They discuss Iowa’s shift to Republican dominance, the need for term limits, and Sand’s independent-leaning Democratic views on issues like girls' sports and border security. Sand critiques national party politics, advocates for open primaries, and emphasizes bipartisanship and accountability in state government.
Topics discussed
Intro and America's Workforce Academy ad
Iowa State Fair food and political context
Democrats bailing on Iowa caucuses
Iowa's shift from battleground to red state
State issues: cancer, water, and corruption
Sand's independent views and party registration
Democratic brand damage in rural America
Cultural issues and policy disagreements
Critique of Governor Reynolds and national Dems
Focus on Iowa issues over national politics
Fairgoers on the governor's race and food
Cost of living and good government reforms
Electoral College, sports, and local pride
Town halls, unity, and avoiding polarization
Sand's modeling past and episode wrap-up
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