On the Road with Jonathan Martin On the Road with Jonathan Martin

An outsider Democrat taking on both parties in Iowa

Aug 26, 2026 · 34m

Summary

Jonathan Martin interviews Iowa State Auditor Rob Sand at the Iowa State Fair, where Sand campaigns for governor while eating pork tenderloins. They discuss Iowa’s shift to Republican dominance, the need for term limits, and Sand’s independent-leaning Democratic views on issues like girls' sports and border security. Sand critiques national party politics, advocates for open primaries, and emphasizes bipartisanship and accountability in state government.

Topics discussed

Intro and America's Workforce Academy ad Iowa State Fair food and political context Democrats bailing on Iowa caucuses Iowa's shift from battleground to red state State issues: cancer, water, and corruption Sand's independent views and party registration Democratic brand damage in rural America Cultural issues and policy disagreements Critique of Governor Reynolds and national Dems Focus on Iowa issues over national politics Fairgoers on the governor's race and food Cost of living and good government reforms Electoral College, sports, and local pride Town halls, unity, and avoiding polarization Sand's modeling past and episode wrap-up
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