Michael Pollan — The Mystery of Consciousness
May 14, 2026 · 1h 14m
Summary
Krista Tippett interviews Michael Pollan about his book *A World Appears*, exploring the nature of consciousness through plant sentience, psychedelic experiences, and embodied cognition. Pollan challenges Cartesian dualism, arguing that consciousness is rooted in the body and may extend beyond the brain. The conversation highlights the mystery of subjective experience and the limits of scientific objectivity.
Topics discussed
Introduction and setting the scene for the interview
Michael Pollan's early life and connection to plants
Plant sentience and the evolution of desire
Defining consciousness and the hard problem of science
Embodied cognition and the gut-brain axis
Psychedelics and the defamiliarization of consciousness
Theories of consciousness: Idealism, Panpsychism, and Emergence
The self, ego, and the desire to escape consciousness
Consciousness, conscience, and the impact of modern distractions
AI, consciousness, and the Copernican moment for humanity
Aging, wisdom, and concluding thoughts on inquiry
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