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BADLY DRAWN BOY - Something To Talk About

Aug 28, 2026 · 1h 10m

Summary

Badly Drawn Boy joins Paul and Steve Hanley to discuss his musical origins, early engineering work at Square One Studios, and his time at Leeds College of Music. He recounts a pivotal encounter with Mark E. Smith, who mistook him for a taxi driver, leading to their collaboration on the song "Calendar." The episode also covers his sobriety journey and reflections on the Manchester music scene.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest welcome Early life and family background Working in recording studios and early influences Learning guitar and first recording experiences Apprenticeship at Square One Studios Studio anecdotes and meeting local artists Working with Craig Davies and 10CC drummer Madchester era and meeting James Tim Booth Interactions with Paul Young and Mike Sweeney Learning basic chords and leaving the studio Recording PJ Proby and the Holman Hunt Orchestra Apprenticeship under Steve Buckley Leeds College of Music experience Musical philosophy and technical vs heart Discussion on Mark Smith and The Fall's work ethic Touring with James Harrington and Mark Smith Recovering from alcoholism and first sober gig The story of meeting Mark Smith at Night and Day Driving Mark Smith home and the initial connection Finding Mark's phone number and proposing collaboration Meeting Mark Smith and recording 'Calendar' Studio session details and working with The Fall Release of the single and Mark's vocal performance Reflections on Mark Smith's faith in unknowns Later encounters with Mark Smith in London Gig together and Mark's comments on performance The importance of live performance and audience impact Steve's story with John Spencer Blues Explosion and outro
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