BADLY DRAWN BOY - Something To Talk About
Aug 28, 2026 · 1h 10m
Summary
Badly Drawn Boy joins Paul and Steve Hanley to discuss his musical origins, early engineering work at Square One Studios, and his time at Leeds College of Music. He recounts a pivotal encounter with Mark E. Smith, who mistook him for a taxi driver, leading to their collaboration on the song "Calendar." The episode also covers his sobriety journey and reflections on the Manchester music scene.
Topics discussed
Introduction and guest welcome
Early life and family background
Working in recording studios and early influences
Learning guitar and first recording experiences
Apprenticeship at Square One Studios
Studio anecdotes and meeting local artists
Working with Craig Davies and 10CC drummer
Madchester era and meeting James Tim Booth
Interactions with Paul Young and Mike Sweeney
Learning basic chords and leaving the studio
Recording PJ Proby and the Holman Hunt Orchestra
Apprenticeship under Steve Buckley
Leeds College of Music experience
Musical philosophy and technical vs heart
Discussion on Mark Smith and The Fall's work ethic
Touring with James Harrington and Mark Smith
Recovering from alcoholism and first sober gig
The story of meeting Mark Smith at Night and Day
Driving Mark Smith home and the initial connection
Finding Mark's phone number and proposing collaboration
Meeting Mark Smith and recording 'Calendar'
Studio session details and working with The Fall
Release of the single and Mark's vocal performance
Reflections on Mark Smith's faith in unknowns
Later encounters with Mark Smith in London
Gig together and Mark's comments on performance
The importance of live performance and audience impact
Steve's story with John Spencer Blues Explosion and outro
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