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S5 E78 Jasmine Guillory: The Art of the Messy First Draft

Sep 30, 2026 · 49m

Summary

Jasmine Guillory discusses her creative journey, explaining how she transitioned from a career in law to writing romance novels. She details her outlining process, including her habit of handwriting first drafts to reduce pressure and using spreadsheets to track revisions. Guillory also shares insights on maintaining consistency, overcoming writer’s block, and the importance of finishing messy first drafts to discover character depth.

Topics discussed

Introduction and guest welcome Guest introduction and praise for her work Current location and balancing promotion with writing Managing multiple projects and carving out writing time Early reading habits and lack of creative outlet Starting to write for fun and landing first agent Outlining process and background as a lawyer Why lawyers make good writers and discipline Origin stories for The Proposal and The Wedding Date Detailed outlining and starting the drafting process Handwriting the first draft of While We Were Dating Writing linearly and handling out-of-order scenes The non-linear nature of writing and daily word counts Overdrafting and messy first drafts Using a spreadsheet to track chapters and revisions The importance of finishing a first draft Managing ideas and knowing when a concept is right Dealing with writer's block and keeping the creative door open The one good hour rule and morning writing habits Using timers and short writing sessions to overcome resistance Working on dialogue and internal character thoughts Dreading certain scenes and discovering character backstory Trusting the subconscious and the creative process Rewriting memory and the role of external support Inspirations and influences on her writing Portraying teenagers and drawing from personal experience Lightning round: joy and pets Lightning round: strangest items in the house Lightning round: celebrating good news Final question: which book would survive a century Closing remarks and book release announcement
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