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Do audiobooks count as reading? (Remastered)

Jul 8, 2026 · 38m

Summary

Hosts Manny, Noah, and Devin debate whether audiobooks count as reading, interviewing expert Dr. Virginia Clinton-Lassell on comprehension differences. They conduct a retention test and discuss the social stigma around listening versus traditional reading. The episode concludes with a retrospective on their original arguments and a humorous call to a friend for transparency.

Topics discussed

Introduction and the audiobook vs. reading debate Arguments on transparency, work ethic, and prestige Historical context and oral tradition Interview with Dr. Anne Mangen on comprehension The hosts' comprehension test results Scientific explanation of reading vs. listening processes Hosts reflect on their changed opinions Revisiting the conversation with Rich Ad breaks and sponsor messages One-year follow-up on reading habits Recent reads and podcast evolution Credits and final advertisements
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