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Putting the "7% Rule" to the Test on a Real Mortgage. Plus, an Economist on Stubborn Food Prices

Aug 27, 2026 · 37m

Summary

Hosts Sean Piles and Elizabeth Ayola interview Max, a laid-off tech worker in Portland, about balancing mortgage payoff with investing and expanding his emergency fund. They discuss the validity of the "7% rule" for debt, refinancing strategies, and using brokerage accounts as backup savings. The episode concludes with a news segment featuring expert David Ortega on rising grocery prices, inflation trends, and consumer shopping behaviors.

Topics discussed

Intro: Bullspend and Instagram teen accounts Guest intro: Portland life and career background The 7% rule: Mortgage vs. investing debate Financial snapshot: Job loss, savings, and budgeting Budgeting strategies and debt payoff motivation Retirement goals and financial advisor experience Refinancing options and current interest rates Emergency fund size and tapping brokerage accounts Retirement lifestyle, hobbies, and paddleboarding Purpose in retirement and cash management Home ownership, repairs, and inflation concerns Investing regrets and future financial plans Sponsor: Built credit card rewards program Food price trends over the last decade Specific price hikes: Beef, tomatoes, and eggs Consumer behavior changes and store brands Dynamic pricing and future price predictions Policy impacts: Tariffs, SNAP, and food insecurity Outro, disclaimer, and Verizon sponsorship
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