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Naruhodo Entrevista #78: Francisco Dyonísio Cardoso Mendes

Oct 12, 2026 · 1h 36m

Summary

In this episode of "Naruhodo," host Dida, an ethologist and professor at UnB, shares his journey from a curious child in São Paulo to a primatologist. He recounts moving to the US at 16, studying anthropology at San Diego State, and returning to Brazil to study muriquis in Minas Gerais. Dida discusses the complex social hierarchies, cooperation, and unique pacifism of these primates, highlighting how his research challenges misconceptions about animal behavior.

Topics discussed

Overview of the four branches of anthropology Primate dominance hierarchies and social behavior Sponsorship and support for the Naruhodô podcast Introduction to guest Francisco Dionísio Cardoso Mendes Reflections on the challenges of science in Brazil Early life and childhood interest in animals Family background, football, and early academic influences Decision to study abroad and initial opportunities High school in the US and football scholarship Life in Salt Lake City and transition to higher education Choosing anthropology over zoology for comparative behavior Arrival at University of San Diego and cultural adjustment Differences between US and Brazilian undergraduate education Research opportunities and competitiveness in the US Developing a passion for primatology and primate behavior History of primatology in Brazil and key pioneers Return to Brazil and specialization in Caratinga Meeting Karen Strayer and starting fieldwork on muriquis Field training and identifying individual muriquis Complex social structures and individual personalities in primates Dominance, female choice, and kinship in muriqui groups Long-term research methodology and endogamy questions Master's thesis focus and collaboration with César Ades Studying dominance hierarchies and formal negotiation Vocal communication and turn-taking in muriquis Sandwich program in Wisconsin and bioacoustics development Challenges of keeping muriquis in captivity Post-doctoral work in Sorbonne and vocal exchange patterns Transition to teaching and interdisciplinary approaches Current student research and cultural comparisons Research on urban macaques and human interaction The Bichos Vivos project and field trips for students Future directions and applications of primatology Value of basic science and public engagement Closing remarks and gratitude to the guest Final thoughts on ethology and scientific dissemination Outro and call to action for listeners
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