Musings About the Agentic Future
Sep 23, 2026 · 22m
Summary
Host Travis Hoyman and guests Lou Whitman and Tyler Crowe analyze Meta's new AI app, Muse, and its potential to disrupt big tech. They discuss the friction between Meta and Amazon, the strategic partnerships with Shopify and PayPal, and the long-term threat AI agents pose to aggregator business models like Uber and Expedia. The episode also highlights AAR Corp as a hidden gem benefiting from B2B agentic AI in aviation, while cautioning investors against overreacting to short-term hype.
Topics discussed
Introduction: Meta's Muse app launch and market impact
Shifting dynamics: From cooperation to competition among tech giants
Threat to Amazon and Meta: Disruption of advertising business models
Meta's strategy: Data harvesting and free tier token limits
Walled gardens and the risk of fragmented AI agents
Historical context: AI hype cycles and the slow burn of adoption
The end game: Commoditization and the search for a dominant player
Sponsor segments: Charles Schwab and Range Rover Sport
Partnerships: Shopify, PayPal, and Expedia embrace Muse
Investor perspective: Low downside for partner companies
Aggregator risks: Expedia and Uber in the age of AI agents
Long-term view: The potential elimination of middlemen
Sponsor segments: Range Rover Sport and Fundrise
Hidden gems: B2B agentic AI vs. consumer limitations
Case study: AAR Corp and AI-driven inventory management
Consumer adoption barriers and the reality of AI shopping
Future scenarios: Google's fast-follow and the unknown winner
Closing remarks and disclosures
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