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Cancer Vaccines & Data Center Drama

Aug 21, 2026 · 41m

Summary

Hosts Travis Hoy, Lou Whiteman, and Jim Gillies discuss rising interest rates, U.S. debt concerns, and the public backlash against AI data centers. They analyze Moderna’s recent surge, debate valuation thresholds for Anthropic, Bitcoin, Disney, and Tesla, and share their current stock picks, including Peloton and Union Pacific.

Topics discussed

Introduction and the importance of interest rates How interest rates impact mortgages and personal debt US Treasury debt strategy and bond market dynamics Valuation models and discount rates for investors Moderna and Merck cancer vaccine trial results Valuing Anthropic and OpenAI IPOs Investment views on Bitcoin, Disney, and Nintendo Tesla valuation and bear case analysis AI buildout risks and Big Tech messaging issues Peloton's turnaround and business model shift Union Pacific acquisition of Norfolk Southern
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