Cancer Vaccines & Data Center Drama
Aug 21, 2026 · 41m
Summary
Hosts Travis Hoy, Lou Whiteman, and Jim Gillies discuss rising interest rates, U.S. debt concerns, and the public backlash against AI data centers. They analyze Moderna’s recent surge, debate valuation thresholds for Anthropic, Bitcoin, Disney, and Tesla, and share their current stock picks, including Peloton and Union Pacific.
Topics discussed
Introduction and the importance of interest rates
How interest rates impact mortgages and personal debt
US Treasury debt strategy and bond market dynamics
Valuation models and discount rates for investors
Moderna and Merck cancer vaccine trial results
Valuing Anthropic and OpenAI IPOs
Investment views on Bitcoin, Disney, and Nintendo
Tesla valuation and bear case analysis
AI buildout risks and Big Tech messaging issues
Peloton's turnaround and business model shift
Union Pacific acquisition of Norfolk Southern
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