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I Was That Cliché Divorced Guy, and I Knew It

Sep 16, 2026 · 51m

Summary

Director Joe Swanberg discusses his new film, The Sun Never Sets, which draws from his messy post-divorce relationship with a younger woman. He reflects on his 20-year marriage, his initial rigid boundaries against remarriage and children, and the manipulative dynamics that emerged as he fell in love. Swanberg explores the complexities of non-monogamy, jealousy, and his eventual reversal of vows, ultimately finding healing and clarity through the filmmaking process.

Topics discussed

Sponsorships and show introduction Introduction to Joe Swanberg and his film style Discussion on the appeal of messy relationships Joe's personal life and relationship history The film 'The Sun Never Sets' and its inspiration Meeting his first wife and their long-term relationship The divorce and post-divorce emotional state Defining relationships by what he did not want Dating younger women and the age gap dynamic The non-monogamous relationship with Dakota The precarious nature of the relationship and jealousy Falling in love and the threat of a rival Navigating the rival's relationship and jealousy The breaking point and the rival's pregnancy The breakup and Joe's sudden change of heart The decision to marry and have a child Sponsorship break for YouTube Premium Making the film and the question of the ending The aftermath and reconnection with Dakota Reflections on control, singleness, and future openness Closing remarks and credits
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