I Was That Cliché Divorced Guy, and I Knew It
Sep 16, 2026 · 51m
Summary
Director Joe Swanberg discusses his new film, The Sun Never Sets, which draws from his messy post-divorce relationship with a younger woman. He reflects on his 20-year marriage, his initial rigid boundaries against remarriage and children, and the manipulative dynamics that emerged as he fell in love. Swanberg explores the complexities of non-monogamy, jealousy, and his eventual reversal of vows, ultimately finding healing and clarity through the filmmaking process.
Topics discussed
Sponsorships and show introduction
Introduction to Joe Swanberg and his film style
Discussion on the appeal of messy relationships
Joe's personal life and relationship history
The film 'The Sun Never Sets' and its inspiration
Meeting his first wife and their long-term relationship
The divorce and post-divorce emotional state
Defining relationships by what he did not want
Dating younger women and the age gap dynamic
The non-monogamous relationship with Dakota
The precarious nature of the relationship and jealousy
Falling in love and the threat of a rival
Navigating the rival's relationship and jealousy
The breaking point and the rival's pregnancy
The breakup and Joe's sudden change of heart
The decision to marry and have a child
Sponsorship break for YouTube Premium
Making the film and the question of the ending
The aftermath and reconnection with Dakota
Reflections on control, singleness, and future openness
Closing remarks and credits
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