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Michael Che: An Amateur Therapy Session

Aug 24, 2026 · 1h 10m

Summary

Mike Birbiglia reunites with SNL co-anchor Michael Che to discuss their journey on Weekend Update, including early struggles, the famous joke swap, and Lorne Michaels' advice. Che shares how he was discovered at the Knitting Factory and reflects on the exhausting but rewarding nature of live television. They also touch on comedy ethics, the evolution of open mics, and Che’s unconventional path from streetwear design to comedy.

Topics discussed

Intro: Lorne Michaels' advice and episode context Michael Che's podcast origins and NYC comedy scene Early SNL struggles and learning to read cue cards Lorne Michaels' management style and Norm Macdonald The origin story of the Weekend Update joke swap Audience psychology and stand-up instincts on TV Silence as a joke and Thanksgiving family dynamics Chris Rock's praise and the emotional toll of SNL Sponsors: Rula therapy and Square business tools Eddie Murphy documentary and his comedic genius SNL goodnights, after-parties, and Australia trip LaGuardia High School and designing for Tommy Hilfiger Discovering comedy as a natural language Modern comedy trends and authenticity in persona SNAP benefits, welfare stigma, and Instagram envy Life expectations and the 'Furble' joke concept Reclaiming slurs and simplifying holiday lore Hangman with his daughter and drinking tolerance math Working It Out for a Cause: Food Banks and Outro
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