American Pain: Inside America’s Most Notorious “Pill Mill”
Sep 4, 2026 · 5h 7m
Summary
The guest recounts his chaotic upbringing, including his father’s double murder and subsequent suicide, before detailing his own legal troubles with suspended licenses. He describes joining Chris Cox to build a fraudulent pain clinic where Cox, a non-doctor, operated as the owner while a dog served as the nominal medical director. The episode covers the rapid, illicit expansion of the business, involving doctor shopping, massive cash flows, and the mysterious death of their first physician in Panama.
Topics discussed
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Childhood trauma: Mother's murder and father's suicide
Legal troubles: Suspended license and probation violations
Entering the pain clinic business and corporate structure
Clinic operations: High volume, cash handling, and patient dynamics
Internal conflict: Missing money and lie detector tests
Violent confrontation: Shotgun incident and witness issues
Managing addicts: Threats, violence, and patient behavior
Fraud tactics: Fake MRIs, pill preferences, and DEA scrutiny
Raid preparation: Hiring staff and DEA investigation signs
Expansion: Buying pharmacies and managing multiple locations
Rivalry and extortion: Conflict with competing clinics
The raid: Arrests, bond, and initial legal aftermath
Cooperation and betrayal: Informants and plea negotiations
Sentencing hearing: Charges, stipulations, and legal strategy
Final sentence: 168 months and reflection on consequences
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