CIA Spy Launders Millions for the Cartel (How It Works)
Oct 11, 2026 · 1h 56m
Summary
Host Matthew Cox interviews a former Navy cryptologist and NSA officer who details his career in signals intelligence, including monitoring secure communications and targeting high-value Al Qaeda operatives in Afghanistan. The guest recounts uncovering a major counterintelligence leak caused by local interpreters and discusses offensive counterintelligence operations against foreign spies. The conversation also covers historical intelligence stories, such as the Israeli beeper operation against Hezbollah, WWII deceptions, and the Khashoggi assassination.
Topics discussed
Sponsors: Progressive Insurance and Wayfair Halloween
Guest origin story: Cheating on a test and joining the Navy
Arrival at NSA Pensacola and first assignment
NSA Hawaii: Monitoring phone sex and sensitive data
Tracking Al Qaeda: SIM swapping and pattern of life
Counterintelligence: Catching a mole in Afghanistan
The Hezbollah beeper explosion and Mossad's role
The invention of bottled water and business innovation
The reality of intelligence work: Boredom vs. excitement
Running operations against North Korea and Iran
Double agent activity and the Soviet invasion of Finland
WWII Deception: Fake armies and the Dunkirk evacuation
Rescuing Mussolini and the Hess incident
Modern surveillance failures: The Novichok attack
The Khashoggi murder and Saudi intelligence
Sponsors: Progressive Insurance and Wayfair (Repeat)
Media coverage of intelligence successes vs. failures
Transition to CIA: The 11-month training program
Covert finance: Money laundering for intelligence
The movie 'Firefox' and stealing Soviet technology
Soviet intelligence budget issues and hacking Bitcoin
Assassination of a Russian diplomat in London
North Korea: Inbreeding, height, and blindness
The Kim Jong-nam poisoning and airport prank
Spying on trains: Using classic cars to mask devices
Siri privacy fears and Sponsors: Progressive/Wayfair
Using AI for money laundering research and cover stories
Infiltrating criminal circles as a money launderer
Money laundering methods: Courts, real estate, and loans
Attorney-client privilege and IOLTA account abuse
Laundromat money laundering and ATM fraud
ATM cash stuffing and drug proceeds
Working with cartels and money laundering as a service
Carbon credits and the Ryan Wedding case
Cryptocurrency and Chinese organized crime
Fentanyl precursors and the Opium Wars
Career end and the problem of multiple aliases
Post-intelligence career: Working at a fast food place
Current work: Child Rescue Association of North America
Outro and call to action
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