Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep: a Paul Tremblay interview
Aug 4, 2026 · 1h 42m
Summary
Hosts interview author Paul Tremblay about his novel *Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep*, discussing its dual narrative, AI themes, and Philip K. Dick influences. The group debates the ethics of AI training data, referencing Tremblay’s class-action lawsuit against OpenAI, and critiques the movie *Backrooms*. They also touch on consciousness, the Turing test, and Tremblay’s recent retirement from teaching.
Topics discussed
Intro, contest announcement, and guest introduction
Discussion of the movie Backrooms
Photo anecdote and Citizen Kane reference
Spotify audiobooks and spoiler policy
Book synopsis: Julia, Bernie, and narrative structure
Character development and avoiding repetition
Genesis of the book: Mary Roach and AI anxieties
AI training data, copyright, and artist anger
Book themes: AI horror and ambiguous endings
Paul's transition from teaching to full-time writing
Philip K. Dick allusions and consciousness theory
Turing test, AI sentience, and LLM limitations
AI degradation, niche focus, and creepy scenes
Unplanned writing process and mundane symbolism
Making readers uncomfortable and attention spans
Digital minimalism and corporate performance metrics
Character depth, singularity, and next book secrecy
Book recommendations: Labatut, Tremblay, and PKD
Upcoming release, merchandise, and film rights
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