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Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep: a Paul Tremblay interview

Aug 4, 2026 · 1h 42m

Summary

Hosts interview author Paul Tremblay about his novel *Dead But Dreaming of Electric Sheep*, discussing its dual narrative, AI themes, and Philip K. Dick influences. The group debates the ethics of AI training data, referencing Tremblay’s class-action lawsuit against OpenAI, and critiques the movie *Backrooms*. They also touch on consciousness, the Turing test, and Tremblay’s recent retirement from teaching.

Topics discussed

Intro, contest announcement, and guest introduction Discussion of the movie Backrooms Photo anecdote and Citizen Kane reference Spotify audiobooks and spoiler policy Book synopsis: Julia, Bernie, and narrative structure Character development and avoiding repetition Genesis of the book: Mary Roach and AI anxieties AI training data, copyright, and artist anger Book themes: AI horror and ambiguous endings Paul's transition from teaching to full-time writing Philip K. Dick allusions and consciousness theory Turing test, AI sentience, and LLM limitations AI degradation, niche focus, and creepy scenes Unplanned writing process and mundane symbolism Making readers uncomfortable and attention spans Digital minimalism and corporate performance metrics Character depth, singularity, and next book secrecy Book recommendations: Labatut, Tremblay, and PKD Upcoming release, merchandise, and film rights
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