John Kiriakou's Dead Drop John Kiriakou's Dead Drop

S3E2 The Whistleblower's Tiger Mom

Sep 28, 2026 · 52m

Summary

John Kiriakou and attorney Jessalyn Radak discuss the legal and personal costs of whistleblowing, tracing the evolution of the Espionage Act from the John Walker Lind case to recent prosecutions. They critique media practices that have endangered sources, such as The Intercept’s handling of Reality Winner, and emphasize the critical need for legal counsel before disclosing sensitive information. The conversation highlights the government’s systematic retaliation against truth-tellers and the urgent necessity for funding pro bono legal protections in an era of increased secrecy.

Topics discussed

Sponsor: Citizens Bank cash bonus offer Sponsor: ZocDoc and dental emergency story Introduction to Dead Drop and Season 3 plans Introduction of guest Jessalyn Radak and her credentials How John Kiriakou met Jessalyn after his arrest Jessalyn's own whistleblowing regarding John Walker Lind Retaliation against Jessalyn and the collapse of the Lind case The pattern of using the Espionage Act against whistleblowers Julian Assange and the backdoor war on journalists Critique of media sloppiness and The Intercept's role Sponsor: Quince clothing and cashmere sweaters Promotion of David's war zone photography podcast The dangers of digital leaks and anonymity failures Advice to consult a lawyer before blowing the whistle Legislative efforts and the lack of whistleblower protections Safe methods for whistleblowing and government retaliation tactics Historical cases: Robert Hansen and CIA mole hunting The difficulty of financial and career recovery Sponsor: ZocDoc repeat mention The power of the government and the accidental whistleblower Joshua Schulte and the importance of legal counsel Current challenges for whistleblower organizations under Trump Closing remarks and call for support for Expose Facts Credits and production information Sponsor: Zen Nicotine Pouches
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